Comments on: I will not be trying the bus during the Triangle’s “Try Transit Week” http://ginnyskal.com/2009/09/30/i-will-not-be-trying-the-bus-during-the-triangles-try-transit-week/ I'm still Ginny from the Blog Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:06:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Smitty http://ginnyskal.com/2009/09/30/i-will-not-be-trying-the-bus-during-the-triangles-try-transit-week/comment-page-1/#comment-3170 Smitty Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:22:24 +0000 http://ginnyskal.com/?p=554#comment-3170 This is so sad. Is no one willing to sacrifice just a bit for clean air and less congestion on our freeways? I know we need rapid rail, and I know there are no bus shelters and most routes are horribly placed due to scant ridership, but do you actually think it will improve unless the powers that be see that some people - especially the thought-leaders who read this blog - will think of SOMEthing besides their own comfort for a single day?? Here we have a chance to show that we're ready to be a large, better managed, cutting edge urban space, with the public transportation options that come along with it. I hope the Obama/Perdue administration triples the fuel taxes, just so it will force more people to ride, rather than take their cars. Sadly, since everyone here is self-focused, that may be the only way things will change. This is so sad. Is no one willing to sacrifice just a bit for clean air and less congestion on our freeways? I know we need rapid rail, and I know there are no bus shelters and most routes are horribly placed due to scant ridership, but do you actually think it will improve unless the powers that be see that some people – especially the thought-leaders who read this blog – will think of SOMEthing besides their own comfort for a single day?? Here we have a chance to show that we’re ready to be a large, better managed, cutting edge urban space, with the public transportation options that come along with it. I hope the Obama/Perdue administration triples the fuel taxes, just so it will force more people to ride, rather than take their cars. Sadly, since everyone here is self-focused, that may be the only way things will change.

]]> By: Jay http://ginnyskal.com/2009/09/30/i-will-not-be-trying-the-bus-during-the-triangles-try-transit-week/comment-page-1/#comment-3169 Jay Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:59:56 +0000 http://ginnyskal.com/?p=554#comment-3169 Apparently, living within 4 miles of RTP precludes me from actually being able to take any bus to work, anywehere without driving to a bus stop or walking to one. Apparently, living within 4 miles of RTP precludes me from actually being able to take any bus to work, anywehere without driving to a bus stop or walking to one.

]]> By: Tanner Lovelace http://ginnyskal.com/2009/09/30/i-will-not-be-trying-the-bus-during-the-triangles-try-transit-week/comment-page-1/#comment-3165 Tanner Lovelace Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:01:56 +0000 http://ginnyskal.com/?p=554#comment-3165 I'd love to be able to take the bus sometimes, but last I checked it would take me a minimum of 3 hours and 4 buses to get from home to work! And that's just one way! (In fact, once when I tried to use their routing web application, it told me to get off at Wade Ave and walk back down I-40 to Harrison Ave to catch another bus!) It may be ok if you're staying within the same town, but going by bus between the various towns of the triangle is sadly a recipe for pain. I’d love to be able to take the bus sometimes, but last I checked it would take me a minimum of 3 hours and 4 buses to get from home to work! And that’s just one way! (In fact, once when I tried to use their routing web application, it told me to get off at Wade Ave and walk back down I-40 to Harrison Ave to catch another bus!) It may be ok if you’re staying within the same town, but going by bus between the various towns of the triangle is sadly a recipe for pain.

]]> By: Diana http://ginnyskal.com/2009/09/30/i-will-not-be-trying-the-bus-during-the-triangles-try-transit-week/comment-page-1/#comment-3164 Diana Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:36:13 +0000 http://ginnyskal.com/?p=554#comment-3164 Would you give it a try for a free Latte? Would you give it a try for a free Latte?

]]> By: Rob E. http://ginnyskal.com/2009/09/30/i-will-not-be-trying-the-bus-during-the-triangles-try-transit-week/comment-page-1/#comment-3161 Rob E. Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:59:46 +0000 http://ginnyskal.com/?p=554#comment-3161 The bus system is tricky. I have to agree that the way this city is spread out, and the way that one of the main center of employment is removed from all the cities, makes any alternative transportation a challenge, but I encourage people to try. For my part, I chose my house with the bus system in mind. Then my office moved a couple of miles closer to my home, and a 30 minute bus ride became a 90 minute one as I had to take one bus downtown and a 2nd bus back out to my office. Then my office moved back, but the bus route changed, making it about 45 minutes to work. The office is scheduled to move again in a couple of years, making it necessary to transfer again and probably doubling my commute again. Even so, between biking and bussing, I have managed to leave my car parked, sometimes for weeks at a time, and I feel no loss of independence. It can be done, but sadly it takes more effort than a "Try Transit Week" ad campaign can solve. Efficient public transportation should provide more advantages to the average user than disadvantages, and I don't think we're there yet. The bus system is tricky. I have to agree that the way this city is spread out, and the way that one of the main center of employment is removed from all the cities, makes any alternative transportation a challenge, but I encourage people to try. For my part, I chose my house with the bus system in mind. Then my office moved a couple of miles closer to my home, and a 30 minute bus ride became a 90 minute one as I had to take one bus downtown and a 2nd bus back out to my office. Then my office moved back, but the bus route changed, making it about 45 minutes to work. The office is scheduled to move again in a couple of years, making it necessary to transfer again and probably doubling my commute again. Even so, between biking and bussing, I have managed to leave my car parked, sometimes for weeks at a time, and I feel no loss of independence. It can be done, but sadly it takes more effort than a “Try Transit Week” ad campaign can solve. Efficient public transportation should provide more advantages to the average user than disadvantages, and I don’t think we’re there yet.

]]> By: John Martin http://ginnyskal.com/2009/09/30/i-will-not-be-trying-the-bus-during-the-triangles-try-transit-week/comment-page-1/#comment-3160 John Martin Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:23:02 +0000 http://ginnyskal.com/?p=554#comment-3160 Hey Ginny! Thanks so much for the shout-out! Yesterday was "Rack & Ride" day as part of the Try Transit Week, which claimed that if you ride your bike to the bus stop and put it on the rack, you could ride free. I didn't notice any surge in that practice, but thought, "It's a darn good thing." I've not yet seen one bus that can accommodate more than two bikes on the rack that's in front of the buses for them. I mean, even if <em>five</em> people took advantage of that (on one bus), it would be a problem. Again, thanks for the mention and for paying for my rides to and from work each day--as a taxpayer, of course. :-) Hey Ginny! Thanks so much for the shout-out! Yesterday was “Rack & Ride” day as part of the Try Transit Week, which claimed that if you ride your bike to the bus stop and put it on the rack, you could ride free. I didn’t notice any surge in that practice, but thought, “It’s a darn good thing.” I’ve not yet seen one bus that can accommodate more than two bikes on the rack that’s in front of the buses for them. I mean, even if five people took advantage of that (on one bus), it would be a problem.

Again, thanks for the mention and for paying for my rides to and from work each day–as a taxpayer, of course. :-)

]]> By: Dina http://ginnyskal.com/2009/09/30/i-will-not-be-trying-the-bus-during-the-triangles-try-transit-week/comment-page-1/#comment-3159 Dina Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:18:56 +0000 http://ginnyskal.com/?p=554#comment-3159 I agree with Valerie. I would love to take the bus to get places. I grew up in a city and I hate driving. I took public transportation everywhere and didn't even have a driving license until I was 25. But that was because it was actually faster than sitting in traffic and driving and then dealing with parking whenever I got to where I was going. None of those things are an issue in the Triangle, not to mention the very nature of the "triangle" makes everything so spread out. I applaud the effort and those who can make it work with their living/working locations. But for most Triangle residents, a bus doesn't work. The pain of driving isn't great enough to not drive your own car to get there. The only way I would take public transit would be in the form of a train that could get me to Chapel Hill or Durham faster than I could drive there OR that could get me to popular nightlife activities (Franklin Street, American Tobacco, etc) so I wouldn't have to worry about drinking & driving. I agree with Valerie. I would love to take the bus to get places. I grew up in a city and I hate driving. I took public transportation everywhere and didn’t even have a driving license until I was 25. But that was because it was actually faster than sitting in traffic and driving and then dealing with parking whenever I got to where I was going. None of those things are an issue in the Triangle, not to mention the very nature of the “triangle” makes everything so spread out. I applaud the effort and those who can make it work with their living/working locations. But for most Triangle residents, a bus doesn’t work. The pain of driving isn’t great enough to not drive your own car to get there. The only way I would take public transit would be in the form of a train that could get me to Chapel Hill or Durham faster than I could drive there OR that could get me to popular nightlife activities (Franklin Street, American Tobacco, etc) so I wouldn’t have to worry about drinking & driving.

]]> By: Valerie http://ginnyskal.com/2009/09/30/i-will-not-be-trying-the-bus-during-the-triangles-try-transit-week/comment-page-1/#comment-3158 Valerie Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:23:34 +0000 http://ginnyskal.com/?p=554#comment-3158 The main reason I don't take the bus is time. According to the bus schedules, it would take me an hour and a half to make my commute. By car it's 30-45 minutes. It would be great to have more "free time" to read or knit on the bus, but I'm not willing to wake up even earlier to do so! The main reason I don’t take the bus is time. According to the bus schedules, it would take me an hour and a half to make my commute. By car it’s 30-45 minutes. It would be great to have more “free time” to read or knit on the bus, but I’m not willing to wake up even earlier to do so!

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